Lake Mojave point?
nyattnyatt

I found this yesterday in Napa. I think it is a milk-chocolate colored chert Lake Mojave point. I've found nothing else like it. This is the first chert point I have seen in this land of obsidian artifacts. Can anyone confirm?
Thanks!
Post ID#1648 - replied 4/26/2007 12:47 AM
Charlie Hatchett

I found this yesterday in Napa. I think it is a milk-chocolate colored chert Lake Mojave point. I've found nothing else like it. This is the first chert point I have seen in this land of obsidian artifacts. Can anyone confirm?
Thanks!
Pretty piece. 8-)
Is it bifacial? :?
Will you take a shot of the other side?
Post ID#1649 - replied 4/26/2007 1:21 AM
nyattnyatt
Post ID#1650 - replied 4/26/2007 1:31 AM
Charlie Hatchett
Sure is. Wish I could help you with the identification, but I'm only familiar with Texas stuff. :?
I'm sure someone familiar with the California sequence will weigh in.
Post ID#4226 - replied 10/27/2007 4:25 PM
Semiolith
Post ID#4227 - replied 10/27/2007 4:34 PM
Semiolith
Post ID#4228 - replied 10/27/2007 4:35 PM
Semiolith
-Thaddeus
Post ID#4233 - replied 10/27/2007 5:44 PM
nyattnyatt
Post ID#4234 - replied 10/27/2007 6:34 PM
Semiolith
Post ID#4236 - replied 10/27/2007 6:50 PM
nyattnyatt
The "lake Mojave" was found on a gravel bar in the river, so no useful context.
Post ID#4237 - replied 10/27/2007 10:18 PM
Semiolith
Susanville is located in geographic range of all three technological types, but artifacts identified as Silver lake usually have short, slightly expanding stem, while both Borax Lake and Parman are straight to slightly contracting. They can be found together, where morphology, again viewed as a continuum, Do you use the Overstreet guide? It is often very inaccurate, with poor editing and no professional refereeing to speak of.
These names (Parman, etc.) are simply conventions, though, to identify a shape and production technique/size range with a specific type site. Parman, Silver LAke, and Borax Lake are all related by period and by adaptation to similar environments, but only as technologies. Genetic relationships are not possible to resolve, but can be inferred.
The common artifact to all of these projectile point types, and to Western Clovis points, is the crescentic object.
Post ID#4238 - replied 10/27/2007 10:42 PM
nyattnyatt
Any thoughts on this:

about 3x2" max thickness of 1/2"
Post ID#4239 - replied 10/27/2007 11:56 PM
Semiolith
I have also, in San Jose, recently (last week) found a very small (<2cm)discoidal with some kind of square motif (four dots in a black pigment). The design may be incidental, but the ground surfaces, possible linear patterns, and shape are all cultural in origin, and were found on a site rich in fire altered rock, debitage, ground stone, and formed flaked artifacts. It is also on a landform associated with the middle Holocene.
Again, I believe these artifacts that you have shown all to be important. If you have any information, I will gladly compile it into official DPR forms and compile GIS-generated maps for you. I would be interested especially in the ground objects, since one of my major research interests and the subject of a current project is the communicative "archive" that ground material functioned as, which retained symbolic purpose in actual form of objects and by providing a "blackboard" for portable messages.
Post ID#4240 - replied 10/28/2007 1:17 AM
nyattnyatt
Post ID#4241 - replied 10/28/2007 6:54 AM
Semiolith

Is the entire edge encompassed by these parallel incised features? Then, we have something else. An object similar to a cogged stone, another artifact type associated with the middle Holocene, but concentrated in Southern California, although found much further South than California.
Why won't your friend disclose the site location? All he/she has to do is disclose the information of the presence of the site, which will be found, anyway, if development occurs, to an archaeological information center. If he/she owns the land, then the artifacts are his/hers. If he cares to help complete the cultural map of the dead and trampled and contribute to science and to the interests of Native Americans, he/he himself will provide the information in confidence to this agency:
Northeast Information Center
California State University, Chico
Phone (530) 898-6256
Fax (530) 898-4413
neinfocntr@csuchico. edu
I don't have to know.
No one can take the land. Seriously. There is nothing to fear. It would be sad if the site is never known. It's as if everything he/she ever did while alive is lost forever, just because someone decided to keep the heirlooms and throw away the journals, diaries, and photo albums of the deceased. The contest is the important part of an archaeological site to scientists, so he/she need not fear for the artifacts. They're his/hers.
As for the atlatl weight, it is best to just describe its attributes and shape, like the notching or polishing, instead of assuming it is an atlatl weight. It is an artifact, possibly an atlatl weight. Was it found near the discoidal object? Were there any projectile point types present that you can disclose?
Post ID#4242 - replied 10/28/2007 9:41 AM
nyattnyatt
their property as they watch the casinos gain power and influence.
I assumed atlatl weight because of polish marks,symmetry, flat base, notched ends, shape, and 67 gram weight (though its original weight would have been higher as there is a small break in the piece). It certainly fits the profile I have read for " California Boatstones". And, it was found in the vicinity where others have been found.
as for the etched stone, those parallel lines are more a product of shadow and angle. Nothing else to suggest cogging.
Thank you for the insight into these mysteries.
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